Saturday, February 28, 2004

A Verbal Arsenal for Your LTE's

by Dada Orwell


One of the most potent weapons the individual Free Stater has at her
disposal is the "Letter to Editor." Many of us use LTE's for recruiting and
also to make our growing presence felt inside the Free State.

I am generally against sending LTE's to New Hampshire from out-of-state
because it triggers a natural reaction against outsiders. However, for those
already in-state or those writing their local "slave state" paper, here is some
verbal ammo.

Invariably, you will end up referring to one or more of the socialist
schemes that torment the nation and make our movement necessary. Why not have
a little fun in the process and reach your reader's funny bone?

I'd be honored if you would substitute one of these nicknames when you
mention an authoritarian institution. Some are from the local NH freedom
movement, others come from Free Staters (the two are gradually getting harder
to distinguish)! A few are already in common use.

Authoritarian Nicknames



  • IRS = Internal Robbery Squadron, IRSS, Internal Redistribution Service,
    Eternal Revenue Service
  • Public Schools = Education-Prevention Camps, Coercively Funded Schools, Government Training Camps, Reproductive Organs of the Welfare State, Diploma Mills
  • NEA = The National Education Assassination
  • NASA = The National Against Space Administration or Not Anytime Soon Abomination
  • Gun control advocates = Control Freaks
  • Anti-liberty = Liberty-challenged
  • Academics = Academocrats
  • SPLC = Southern Poverty-enhancement Law Center
  • The Americans With or Without Disabilities Act
  • FDA = Food and Delay Administration, Food and Delay Abomination
  • HUD = Housing and Urban Devestation, Housing and Urban Dependency
  • ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS = The Nanny Networks
  • Liberals = Authoritarians, Socialists
  • Democrats = Demothoritarians, Dictacrats
  • Big Gov Republicans = Replublithoritarians, Republicans in Name Only (RINO's), Republicommies
  • Department of Defense = War Department, Department of Occupation
  • Gun control = Gun owner control, Victim Disarmament, Home Disarmament, Rape Enhancement Legislation, Rapist Assistance Act
  • Social Security = Socialist Security
  • The Whitewash House
  • Chief Injustice
  • Executive Order = executive edict
  • Census = inventory
  • FICA = Federal Income Confiscation Act
  • Publicly funded = Coercively funded
  • Targeted tax cut = discriminatory tax cut
  • Gridlock = disagreeing with the Left
  • Bipartisanship = agreeing with the Left
  • OSHA = Overblown System to Help Accidents
  • DOPE = Department Of Public Education
  • Campaign finance reform = Incumbent Protection Act, Campaign finance deform
  • Universal health care = Universal Health Disrepair, Universal Shelve Care
  • INS = Welcome Wagon
  • Health and Human Services = Health and Human Servitude, Stealth Inhuman Servitude
  • Bi-Lingual Education = Deny-Lingual Education
  • Brady Bill = Shady Bill
  • Brady Law = Shady Law, Brady Stalker Assistance Law
  • Tax Maxification (got that from NH State Rep John Gibson...or maybe the guy who was interviewing him, I can't remember)
  • UN INSTITUTIONS: Whenever you want to rename a UN institution, just try pronouncing it as "un." Examples:

    • UNPROFOR = The UN's un-protection force (for unprotection, of course!
      Unprotecting men, women, children and girls... filing complaints in a death camp world!)
    • The UN Security Council = The Unsecurity Council, The United Satins Security Council, The Indicted Nations, The Unlighted Nations

  • Outcomes-based education = outslums-based education
  • Socialism = groupthink (thats from Coalition of NH Taxpayers)
  • Deptartment of Education = Department of Education Prevention
  • Statists = Powermongers, Powerworshippers, Authoritarians
  • National Public Radio = National Powermonger Radio, National Powerworshipper Radio, National Propaganda Radio (That's what they call it in New Hampshire LOL)
  • NAACP = National Association for the Advancement of Constant Panic, National Association Against Colored People, National Association the Advancement of Complaining People
  • ACLU = The Against Civil Liberties Union, The Almost Civil Liberties Union (if they don't think you have gun rights what is the word "liberties" doing in their name?)
  • NRA = The National Rifle Equivocation (I'll take this one off when they apologize for having Free Stater Tim Condon arrested).
  • People for the American Way = Sheeple for the American Way, People for the Authoritarian Way
  • ATF = Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Fried Americans
  • DEA = Druglord Enhancement Agency
  • AFDC = Aid to Families with Democratic Congressmen, Aid to Families with Dependent Crackheads
  • "It Takes a School to Bankrupt a Village" - A bumper sticker unique to New Hampshire, apparently
  • New Hampshire = The Free State

    The other 49 states = Slave States
  • School Superintendent = School Superincompetent , School SuperinSPENDent, Empire Builder
  • Board of Education = Board of Education Prevention
  • No Child Left Behind = No Child Allowed to Shine
  • Bureau of Land Management = Bureau of Land Mismanagement, Bureau of Land Micromanagement
  • Department of Labor = Department of Labor Prevention, Department of Lazier
  • Diversity Activists = Diversity Nazis, Diversity Police
  • Political correctness activists = PC thugs, Speech Police
  • Tax Boards = Tax Barons
  • Tax Collectors = Tax Tyrants, Tax Nazis, Tax Gestapo, Coercive Funding Police
  • EPA = Environmental Prevention Agency
  • CBO (Congressional Budget Office) = Congressional B.S. office
  • NOW (National Organization of Women) = National Organization of Whiners, National Organization of Woe-is-us
  • Government agencies = Alphabet Agencies
  • Bureau of Indian Affairs = Bureau of Indian Despair
  • National Endowment for the Arts = National Endowment for the Abominations
  • It takes a village idiot to raise a Democrat.
  • Texas Education-prevention Agency
  • SCOTUS = Supreme Court of the United Socialists
  • Medicare = Medicareless
  • Affirmative Action = Affirmative Slaction, Affirmative Faction
  • Democrat-controlled = socialist-infested, authoritarian-infested
  • Dem + Rep = Republicrat, Demublican
  • Progressive = Recessive
  • Law = Flaw, Overhead, Bureaucracy
  • Rule, Regulation = Bureaucracy, Overhead, Barriers to Entry
  • Corporate Welfare = Reverse Robinhood
  • "Urban Spawl" = Economic Growth
  • National GOP = Grand Old Pretenders, Republicans in Name Only (RINO's)
  • Space Shuttle = Flying Coffin
  • "49 Slave States, One New Hampshire"

Still need names for: WTO, EU, NAFTA, CAFTA (what is CAFTA??), Diversity, Department of the Interior, Secret Service, Welfare (hmmm...no nicknames come to mind, but some schemes are so respectability-challenged that the real name provides sufficient insult).

More nicknames welcome! Head to this FSP forum thread and add yours.

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One Black Cop's View

By Police Officer "Snake" Bowman

" Well, you Sons of Bitches, now you know how I feel!" -General George S.Patton-

You may not like what I'm going to say here, but the First Amendment is still in
effect (at the time of the time of this writing) so I'm going to exercise my
right to rant: Prepare to get your feathers ruffled!...

If you are an uniformed Police Officer of any rank and do not fully, and honorably support the pre-existing God given rights enumerated in the 2nd Amendment, you are a disgrace to your Badge and your oath of office to protect and serve. The citizens of the United States of America deserve better than you.

You should not be allowed the honor of public service as a sworn peace officer of the law. Taking a contrary, selective position to the Constitution means you are not following the supreme law of the land and are, in fact, endangering the safety of yourself, your fellow officers, and the public you are sworn to protect. This dishonor is increased if you support any (so- called) "Police Fraternal Organization" that aligns itself with groups seeking to infringe, limit, or destroy the 2nd Amendment (Such as "Handgun Control Incorporated",
etc). This dishonor is increased if you support any State or Federal Attorney General, Legislator (Politician); or local Government body that have de facto reneged on their sworn oath to "Protect and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign or domestic." For these individuals (by endorsing "gun
control") have become the "domestic enemies" embodied in that oath.

If this description fits you, know that I consider you to have no honor and should rightly be held beneath contempt for your nauseous subservience to an unconstitutional doctrine, plus unheroic behavior in the face of danger to your fellow officers and the public.

Are you ticked off yet? Well, refer to the above quote by U.S. Army General George S Patton:. Read it?. Good, that means I can only add, (if you were offended): "tough noogies"!. Let's proceed...

There is plenty of documentation to support the fact that "gun control" laws in the United States are and have been rooted in the dishonorable practice generally known as "Racism". If there is any doubt about this, I suggest you do some research on your own (Author Clayton E. Cramer has written a short essay
that can bring you up to speed quickly, search it out).

This brings me to a further assertion. I submit that if you wear the badge and happen to be of Black ancestry ("African-American" is the current "politically correct" term: I choose not to use it), and fit the criteria I have previously described, you should be held in special dishonor. Your ancestors fought and
died under a special adversity for the rights you presently enjoy. I know that we still have a long way to go, (and you are unhappy with that last promotion you were "suspiciously" beaten out of). But today you are still freer than any previous generation, and should honor what they fought for by at least
acknowledging that fact. A Black officer or group of officers that support "gun control" over the 2nd Amendment, in effect, support a continuation of practices rooted in racism, practices that currently discriminate against a targeted group of Americans not limited only to Blacks. If you support that you have no honor and are a disgrace to your badge, your brothers in blue, your brothers in ancestry, and the public you are sworn to protect and serve. (This goes for the rest of you who seek not to be identified as "Black", but are not, so-called, "white"; so for you "others", accept that you have advanced in large part on the corpses of millions of Black Americans who were here before you: It's a fact: Deal with it.)

Are you ticked off yet? Are you calling me bad names? Does the truth hurt? Good, maybe you'll grow a spine and renounce this "thing" called "gun control" and fight for all your rights!...Refer to the Patton quote again here.

(By the way, Patton lauded his Black tanker / tank destroyer units who fought under his command. Patton said words to the effect of him not giving a damn what color a man was as long as he had the balls to fight the enemy...How are yours hangin', Lawman?)

Fact: "Gun Control" is a betrayal of the people you are sworn to protect. "Gun Control" deprives only the law-abiding citizen the best means of self-defense against the violent criminal element. Remember those people? Those you are sworn to protect? And what about those "other" people? You know them well, you have to deal with them on the street nearly every day. You know what mindless savagery they are capable of, you have seen the result first hand. You know they have no conscience. You know that most are sociopathic, and rationalize that the rules don't apply to them, just the "chumps" stupid enough to work for a living and obey "the law" 99% of the time. You know they are cowards who enjoy harming the weak and defenseless; who in fact take a vicious glee in the suffering of their victims. You know there is a reason we need prisons. You know this from "up close and personal" experience the protected rarely grasp: They are taken aback by the naked face of evil, flee from it. They pray that you might arrive in time to save them from it (Except, of course, from the self-reliant gun-owning citizens "allowed" to defend themselves in pro-self defense jurisdictions). But you , Lawman, ideally should be a warrior/philosopher. You run toward the sound of battle, rather than from it. You are charged with righting wrong, sworn to do so even at risk of your life. You know the badge is more than mere metal...

That being the case, to advocate citizens offer themselves up as sheep-like prey, to advocate the best citizens, the level-headed, able to help their fellows in your absence, those who are your support, those whose firearms will NEVER be turned against YOU, is unconscionable, unreasonable, and unrealistic!

That citizen could well save your life some day. It has happened in the past countless times, what makes you think it can not happen again? Well, it will not happen if that citizen is (un- constitutionally) disarmed. That citizen, (in actuality, that member of the Unorganized Militia of the United States of America, constitutionally protected to keep and bear arms), is there to help. If you have had to deputize a citizen while alone and struggling with a resisting suspect, you know what I mean! (Why do you think you have the power to deputize in the first place? Think about it, Lawman).

Understand this concept: Criminals misuse firearms in violent crime, law-abiding citizens DON'T. The mere fact that one is willing to misuse a firearm against his fellows automatically brands them an evil-doer, unfit to share the company of non-violent citizens: Their intent and action (Human responsible agency)
defines them as violent criminals, mere possession of firearms does not. Never confuse the two...Remember there is a faction whose intent is specifically designed to deceive you into equating mere possession of firearms with evil intent: Never fall for this sophistical gambit, don't be a gullible fool, manipulated by emotionalist propaganda.. Use your mind and logic to see through the hype.

To advocate this "thing", this "gun control", is the highest betrayal of the primary rule of nature: self-defense. It is a cruel betrayal of the people you are sworn to protect, and a boon to the evildoers among us. It is the ultimate betrayal of your hard-earned Badge and all it stands for...

Are you ticked off yet?. Are you calling me "crazy" because you have been fed propaganda claiming citizens "can't be trusted with guns"?. Has it occurred to you that all citizens are not violent criminals? that "cause and effect" do not support the flawed theory that armed citizens cause crime?, that it is illogical to "tar the citizen with the same brush" as the violent predators among us?

Well, know this: the advocates of this despicable thing called "gun control" do not bother to make these distinctions! Their mentality proves it, and the intentional criminalization of millions of American citizens at their hands, through the "banning" of mythical so-called "Assault Weapons", handguns, and other infringements, proves that "crime control", despite their claims, is not their true agenda.

After all, why would politicians intentionally create a new class of "criminals" from a population that has not engaged in any violent acts? In some jurisdictions, California comes to mind, Police Officers, assumed to be trusted to carry firearms in the defense of the public; are not exempted from these "assault weapons" bans, on or off-duty. Think about that, Lawman, What message is that sending you? . What about "Officer Safety"? (Particularly in the wake of the North Hollywood shootout, where Cops had to go begging to local gunshops to borrow "illegal assault weapons" to stop terrorist bank robbers?). They are denying you safety, and survival, and by extension, also the public.

How are you being seen by those who seek to ban any firearms that can be demonized to suit arbitrary political whims, such as "(Niggertown) Saturday Night Specials", ".50 Caliber Sniper Rifles", or the current obfuscation craze, the alleged "deadly, high powered semi-automatic weapon" aka "Assault Weapons"?
(President "Teddy" Roosevelt would have been confused about that one: He routinely carried "semi-autos" on his hunts, and this was in the early 19th Century! "Semi-Auto" Technology is nothing "new", despite newsroom propaganda).

Realize that even you are now a suspect, viewed as a "latent criminal" by the very people that claim to be "pro-law enforcement", and tell the public that you support their views! This concept is what the Communists called "useful idiots", human tools to further a totalitarian agenda. If you think they are your
"friends", I beg you to look at the facts and realize that anyone who seeks to deny your self preservation is not your friend! Period!

Anyone who seeks to deny American citizens the ability for self- preservation is not a friend either: The two go hand in hand: the protectors and those they are charged to protect...And over what? Simple possession of a legally purchased firearm that is no different from any other of its class except by it's "appearance"?

Orchestrated brainwash: Propaganda techniques and The Mythical "Assault Weapon"
Anyone but an abject moron or gullible dupe can deny certain obvious facts regarding firearms. . Several well-researched articles have been written supporting the facts about "semi-automatic" firearms. For brevity, I will assert 2 basic facts important to understand when attempting to figure out how we got to this point in history.

Fact 1) Propaganda techniques developed by the Nazis and Communists are not dead: It is easy for one to dismiss facts by claiming a "right wing" bias against "progressive" (Socialist) ideas. That's a game for fools. Advocates of "gun control" unashamedly use emotionalistic ploys a to gather cash, sympathy, and "useful idiots", to further their agenda. Accept that these people are more than willing to LIE without conscience to further their agenda. Have no illusions about it. Furthermore....

Fact-2) The "Mainstream Media" and University environments are controlled by Socialist "political correctness": One cannot rely upon these sources, in the main, to be objective or "pro-constitution". The "Lamestream Media" are the epitome of "useful idiots". Their news organs are run by 60's Marxist influenced
cadre who use our "freedom of speech" against us (As predicted by Soviet Cold Warrior Nikita "We will bury you" and "We will take over your society without firing a shot", Kruschev). University "Professors" happily brainwash your kids with discredited Marxist rhetoric...They "love" the 1st Amendment, but see the rest of the Constitution as merely a hindrance to be negated as soon as possible, particularly the 2nd Amendment. As elite "intellectuals" they ignore the fact that they would be first against the firing squad wall in the Utopian "revolution" they dream of.

(In the Congo revolution of the 1960's, people were shot out of hand merely for having the intellect to ride a bicycle!) Both elements are anti-firearms (in the hands of the untrustworthy "masses" at least) by philosophy. Ironically their "supporters" would quickly "put them against the wall" after they are no longer
"useful idiots". These fools would graduate to being "dead idiots" and initiators of a Police state, rather than a "Utopia". This has happened countless times in history, yet they never accept this fact.

Summary: "Gun Control" advocates consistently use the above indicated techniques, are shameless liars, and have no compunction to use "any means necessary" to disarm Americans...They are in fact elitists who look down on the "masses" being armed and care nothing for your safety. They hate the Police as "tools of the oppressors" (i.e.: not under their control), and all they stand for. They "tolerate" guns only to assure their self preservation (Your self-preservation does not count, they see you only as fit to be nameless victims on TV news bytes. This applies to both Police and citizens!)

Lies and dammed lies: The Mythical "Assault Weapon"
If you have stuck with me this far, it likely means you know something about firearms so I can cut to the chase and get down to business. Keeping the previous facts in mind, other facts appear that we already know, such as...
There is no honor in dishonor: We are not "useful idiots", cowardly by nature and easily manipulated by fear tactics. We know that a cruel "magic trick" has been cynically perpetrated on the people of the USA, and continues to be at the time of this writing. We know that the politicians, their "running dogs" (to borrow a Communist propaganda term) in the news media, and, sadly, the "useful idiots" who carry a badge and align themselves with these elements for personal gain and power. These are primarily Police Chiefs/Sheriffs and "Fraternal Organizations", who claim to represent the true street cops, but have long ago lost touch with the street and the officers who daily are on the line.

These dishonorable individuals are a disgrace to the Badge for their craven contempt of officer and civilian safety by condoning firearm confiscation, this "thing" called "gun control"). We know this axis are liars, dammed liars, and continue to be liars!. We know, however, that they have had success with their dammed lies! Fact:There is no such thing as an "Assault Weapon": We know that the firearms that have been demonized as so-called "Assault Weapons" are no more dangerous than any other common rifle. We know that these firearms were discriminated against simply because they look similar to current military firearms. We know that looks are totally irrelevant to function. We know that many of these targeted firearms are in fact less lethal than most common firearms, because the ammunition is of lower power. We know that the propagandists misused the German term "Strumgewer" ("Assault Rifle"), a firearm by definition a "machine gun" or "full-automatic" rifle, and bastardized the term into "Assault Weapon". Then, using the "Big Lie" technique (itself pioneered by Nazi master propagandist Josef Goebbels) by substituting the term "Assault Weapon" for "semi-automatic" or "self- loading" rifles. The latest definitional "bait and switch" buzzword is to refer to any self-loading firearms, rifle or pistol, as so- called scary "Semi-Automatic weapons". This latest variation on the theme serves the same purpose as the original: Create confusion and reactionary fear in the populace to further a gun confiscation agenda, plus stigmatize any law-abiding citizen who would choose to own such a military look alike firearm! The idea is to discredit the gun owner, force them to appear to be "unreasonable", and thereby justify "more reasonable controls" on firearms. Remember their overused talking point? "Why would anyone need an "assault weapon"? (A lawyer must have thought up that bit of "are you still beating your wife" rhetoric!). This "Divide and Conquer" tactic worked quite well, and all gun owners who fell into that trap should be ashamed of themselves. From the blackpowder shooters up and through the .50 Cal Geeks, we should never again allow ourselves to be divided this way!. If you remember nothing from this essay, remember this point!).

After all, one can buy a 150mph capable Ferrarri, but only "needs" a VW Bug: Quick! Justify that argument to yourself right now. What other logical arguments should you have come up with when some brainwashed anti gun do-gooder got in your face with this type of propaganda?...How will you fare in similar situations in future?

Military look alikes are "more" Constitutionally protected than others: They are true "Militia Rifles! This fact points to the actual reason why these firearms are demonized and "banned"!. Did it ever occur to you, Lawman, why the anti-gun fanatics chose to "ban" these mythical firearms rather than seek to "control"
them by using the same system already in place for "machine guns"? Think about it...Hard!. Scenarios can range from the simple (Semi-Auto technology could not stand the objective test to compare them to actual machineguns, therefore the gun-banners had to consider they might lose using such a tactic) to the full- on
"nightmare" (Gun banning politicians looking outside their office windows to see thousands of citizens of all races and creeds gathered together, each thrusting their AR-15's, AK-47's and FAL rifles overhead, chanting in unison "Don't tread on me!", "Never Again!" and "fill in the blank!"). [What scenario(s) do you think explain "banning" vs. "control"?]...

The modern Militia Rifle is no different from the personally supplied musket, powder and ball of our ancestors: state of the art civilian versions of military firearms, as the founding fathers intended. The Swiss have long known this simple concept, and their unorganized Militia possesses government issued (actual) Assault Rifles and other small arms in most homes. Their politicians appear to have no problem trusting the people with arms. Here, in the USA, politicians intentionally conspire to deprive the people of arms, and have specifically targeted those arms that have the most utility as Militia firearms.

Can we see the forest for the trees?. I'm going to say it, because is seems nobody else has the "stones" to "tell it like it is", so prepare again to get your feathers ruffled! Our first and best President, George Washington, hit the nail on the head when he called Militia Rifles our "liberty teeth"!

Do you really think the gun-ban fanatics don't know the real significance of widespread ownership of Militia Rifles? Do you really think they suddenly decided that these firearms should be "banned" because a few isolated madmen (criminals) decided to commit "suicide by Cop", turning the gun on their fellows, with the resultant, orchestrated, high profile media coverage?

(A tactic used to "justify" gun bans in Canada, Australia, and the U.K. to name a few...Countries who now have a nearly out of control "illegal firearms" crime rates? Don't forget that their governments declared the firearms to be illegal in the first place, yet decry so-called "illegal firearms use"). George Washington had recent memory of the events that sparked the Revolutionary War against the Crown, events that are not taught to our children, glossed over, or outright lied about in classrooms all over the USA. The simple fact is that the revolt was sparked by British troops attempting to confiscate the arms and ammunition of American colonists! Our ancestors called those that would deprive the people of arms as tyrants seeking to crush liberty. So I ask you, what are we to call those who seek to do the same thing here and now?. Remember what I said about those who would deprive you of your right to defend yourself not being your friends, Lawman? What about your officer safety and the safety of those you are sworn to protect?. (One cannot "pursue happiness" if one is dead, after all). What do we call those who today are relentlessly determined to confiscate, declare "illegal", and "ban" firearms, particularly those most suited to be Americans "liberty teeth"? Those who are doing the same thing as those British troops of yore, (by "legal" means): attempting to confiscate the arms and ammunition of Americans? Say it, Dammit!

The bottom line: Telling it like it is, and Deal with it! The constant spiteful attacks, slander, demonization and ridicule of law-abiding gun owners over the years are taking their toll. The peaceful citizens of the "gun culture" are fast reaching their limit of how much abuse they are going to take. They are fed up with being compared to violent criminals, because they know they are not. They rightly resent, and are fearful of being turned into "instant felons", merely because a firearm has some innocuous feature they know has no realistic bearing on its function. These execrable "laws" are already on the books, and the citizens, terrorized by State propaganda, know they are in jeopardy, backed into a corner. You know what happens when you have to deal with the proverbial "cornered animal"? And realize this: No politician will suffer because of these "laws", if anything, they will exploit the results of the "enforcement" of these "laws", and what will that be, Lawman? You or your fellows being killed by the dozens attempting to serve warrants on "technical violators" (that guy with a "flashhider", "detachable magazine" or "bayonet lug" on his legally bought firearm? All because some cowardly "Supervisor" thought it would be an "easy arrest", as the "violator" is not a known violent felon?. That is the bottom line: You have been put in the "trick bag", Lawman! They pass the phony
unconstitutional "gun laws", but you, Lawman, are the first to DIE "enforcing" them!

These citizens are not stupid, they instinctively know these "laws" are wrong. You know that these laws are wrong also, Lawman, and what you see on the street every workday proves it over and over again. I know because I see it every workday myself. Again, I say Criminals misuse firearms in violent crime, law-abiding citizens do not! I have never seen or heard of anyone injured or killed by a "folding stock" or a "30 round magazine". I have seen people injured by the "human responsible agency" of another person, using "weapons" from fist to automobile.

By standing against the lie embodied in this unnatural anti-self defense concept of "gun control", you are making the ultimate statement to truth, justice, integrity and honor. You are assuring that the Police in America will not go down the same path as the Politzei of the Nazi era, passively participating in the oppression of those citizens disfavored by the current government. (James Madison: "Americans [having] the right and advantage of being armed- unlike citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms").

We are Americans our traditions make us unique. We must, as officers of the law, protect and serve the citizenry, enabling them to "pursue happiness" as best possible. Your Badge should only reflect the bright light of liberty and never embrace the dark side of evil: the poisonous, insidious, despicable, doctrine of
gun confiscation. There is no higher evil than to deprive the citizens of the United States their right to individual, collective, and national defense against those who would harm them without mercy. Stand against
this horrific crime. Prevent the consequences, intentional or not.

The gun-confiscators are creating a move from "the ballot box to the cartridge box". Only your sacred Badge and all it stands for will prevent it, and this you have sworn to do Lawman!

Well, you Sons of Bitches really know how I feel now!
Officer "Henry 'Snake' Bowman"

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Tuesday, February 24, 2004

Did the US Government Have a Hand in 9-11?

89 Websites With Evidence Of U.S. Government Complicity In 9-11
You'll have to cut and paste these links to the locator window or your browsers.

http://www.davidicke.com/icke/articles2002/fork1.html - Great book, Icke was interviewed on KTKK
http://www.911forthetruth.com
http://911index.batcave.net/911.html
http://www.911pi.com
http://911research.wtc7.net
http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/pentagon
http://www.911review.org
http://www.911review.org/Sept11Wiki/911Encyclopedia.shtml
http://911skeptics.blogspot.com
http://www.911-strike.com
http://www.911truth.org
http://www.911truth.org/community.html
http://www.americanfreepress.net/09_03_02/NEW_SEISMIC_/new_seismic_.html
http://www.americanstateterrorism.com
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/wtc.htm
http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero13/pentagone/erreurs_en.htm
http://home.comcast.net/~skydrifter/exp.htm
http://www.communitycurrency.org/9-11.html
http://www.conniescomments.blogspot.com
http://www.conspiracyplanet.com
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org
http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/911
http://home.debitel.net/user/andreas.bunkahle/defaulte.htm
http://www.deceptiondollar.com
http://www.emperors-clothes.com/indict/911page.htm
http://www.falloutshelternews.com/9_11_ODDITIES.html - Dozens of additional links
http://www.feralnews.com
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/
http://www.gaianxaos.com/SpecialReports.htm
http://new.globalfreepress.com/index.pl?section=911
http://www.globalresearch.ca
Guerrilla News TV
http://www.grandconspiracy.com
Guerrilla News Network
http://www.gunsandbutter.net
http://www.hermes-press.com
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info
http://www.infowars.com
http://www.johnbuchanan.org
http://www.johnbuchanan.org/news/newsitem.php?id=1217
http://www.johnkaminski.com
http://www.leftgatekeepers.com
http://www.legitgov.org/9_1_1_oddities.html
http://www.lihop.net
http://www.madcowprod.com
http://www.mediamonitors.net/mosaddeq37.html
http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2002/How-To-Start-A-WarMay02.htm
http://www.nancho.net/911CW/MUinfo1.html
http://www.nerdcities.com/guardian/
http://www.newsmakingnews.com
http://www.ny911truth.org
http://www.oilempire.us
http://www.onlinejournal.com
http://www.osamaskidneys.com
http://home.pacbell.net/skeptica/9-11bulletpoints.html
http://home.pacbell.net/skeptica/9-11list.html
http://www.peaceproject.com/stickers/questionstickers.htm
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/ericbart
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/jpdesm/pentagon/english.html
http://www.physics911.org
http://www.prisonplanet.com
http://www.propagandamatrix.com/archiveprior_knowledge.html
http://www.public-action.com
http://www.questionsquestions.net
http://www.questionsquestions.net/docs04/bugle/bugle1.html
http://www.radio4houston.org/takingaim
http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH
http://www.rense.com
http://www.rise4news.net
http://www.septembereleventh.org
http://serendipity.cia.com.au/wtc.html
http://www.serendipity.li/wot/aa11.htm
http://www.serendipity.li/wot/best_911_sites.htm
http://www.serendipity.li/wtc.htm
http://serendipity.ptpi.net/wtc.html
http://www.911sharethetruth.com
http://www.sigacanada.com
http://socrates.berkeley.edu/~pdscott/q.html
http://www.standdown.net
http://sydney.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=36354
http://www.takebackthemedia.com/bushnonazi.html
http://www.takebackthemedia.com/flash.html
http://www.takingaim.info
http://www.tenc.net/indict/911page.htm
http://www.thelawparty.com
http://www.thepowerhour.com/wagwtc.htm
http://www.thememoryhole.org/911
The War on Freedom
http://www.thewebfairy.com/killtown
http://www.truth-now.com
http://www.truthout.com
http://www.unansweredquestions.org
http://www.visiontv.ca/Archive/Archives_fr.html
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/northwoods.html
http://www.wtc7.net
http://xymphora.blogspot.com

Mike Ruppert's Sites and Mirrors The 9-11 info in each is at (site)/free/ww3/
Main site: http://www.fromthewilderness.com Alternate address for main site:
http://64.239.13.64 Mirror site 1: http://www.copvcia.com/ftw/ Mirror site 2:
http://www.bighula.com/ftw/ List of mirror sites: http://www.copvcia.com

Quotes on the 2nd Amendment - more to come

"These people want our guns because they want to run our lives, and they don t
want to worry about getting shot when they try to do so. When you hear that
they've confiscated my gun, then you'll know I'm dead". WALTER WILLIAMS
(columnist)

"I look at our public servants as just that - "the help". And so I consider govt
gun grabbers just as I would a yard man or maid who had the audacity to demand
my gun (not that I have a yard man or maid :-)). M.G.

"A well-schooled electorate, being necessary to the security of a free State the
right of the people to keep and read books, shall not be infringed." J. NEIL
SCHULMAN (2nd Amendment wording applied to books)

"Try to twist this [above quote] to mean that you can only read books at the
library; that you have to get a background check to buy a book; that big books
should be banned; etc." UNKNOWN

"The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as
the palladium of the liberties of a republic; since it offers a strong moral
check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers; and will generally,
even if these are successful in the first instance, enable the people to resist
and triumph over them." JOSEPH STORY (James Madison's Supreme Court appointee)

"The sophisticated and subtle tyrant will unarm his people, and store up their
weapons, under pretence of keeping them safe." SIR WALTER RALEIGH

"Today, we need a nation of Minutemen, citizens who are not only prepared to
take arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as the basic
purpose of their daily life and who are willing to consciously work and
sacrifice for that freedom." JOHN F. KENNEDY

"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution
inevitable." JOHN F. KENNEDY

"By calling attention to 'a well regulated militia', the 'security' of the
nation, and the right of each citizen 'to keep and bear arms', our founding
fathers recognized the essentially civilian nature of our economy. Although it
is extremely unlikely that the fears of governmental tyranny which gave rise to
the Second Amendment will ever be a major danger to our nation, the Amendment
still remains an important declaration of our basic civilian-military
relationships, in which every citizen must be ready to participate in the
defense of his country. For that reason, I believe the Second Amendment will
always be important." JOHN F. KENNEDY

"The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to infringe the
just liberty of the press or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people
of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms".
SAMUEL ADAMS

"Who are the militia ? Are they not ourselves ? Is it feared, then, that we
shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom ? Congress have no power to
disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the
soldier, are the birthright of an American. ... The unlimited power of the sword
is not in the hands of either the federal or state government, but where I trust
in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people." TENCH COXE

"What, Sir, is the use of a militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a
standing army, the bane of liberty. ... Whenever Governments mean to invade the
rights and liberties of the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia,
in order to raise an army upon their ruins." ELBRIDGE GERRY

"The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be
properly armed." ALEXANDER HAMILTON

"The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able may have a
gun". PATRICK HENRY

"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who
approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright
force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined." PATRICK
HENRY

"Are we at last brought to such humiliating and debasing degradation, that we
cannot be trusted with arms for our defense ? Where is the difference between
having our arms in possession and under our direction, and having them under the
management of Congress ? If our defense be the real object of having those arms,
in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us,
as in our own hands ?" PATRICK HENRY

"No freeman shall ever be debarred the use of arms." THOMAS JEFFERSON

"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither
inclined nor determined to commit crimes... Such laws make things worse for the
assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to
prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence
than an armed man." THOMAS JEFFERSON (quoting Cesare Beccaria)

"The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try
to take it." THOMAS JEFFERSON

"A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people them-selves ...and
include all men capable of bearing arms". RICHARD HENRY LEE

"To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of people always
possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them...
RICHARD HENRY LEE

"Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the citizens of
other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms".
JAMES MADISON

"I ask, sir, what is the militia ? It is the whole people except for a few
public officials." GEORGE MASON

"Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the
American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence ... From the
hour the Pilgrims landed to the present day, events, occurrences, and tendencies
prove that to ensure peace, security, and happiness, the rifle and pistol are
equally indispensable ... The very atmosphere of firearms everywhere restrains
evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with all that's good. GEORGE
WASHINGTON

"Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in
almost every kingdom of Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce
unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and
constitute a force superior to any bands of regular troops that can be, on any
pretense, raised in the United States". NOAH WEBSTER

"The right of self-defense is the first law of nature; in most governments it
has been the study of rulers to confine this right within the narrowest possible
limits... and [when] the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under any
color or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already annihilated, is
on the brink of destruction." ST. GEORGE TUCKER

"The right of self-defense is the first law of nature; in most governments it
has been the study of rulers to confine this right within the narrowest limits
possible. Wherever standing armies are kept up, and when the right of the people
to keep and bear arms is, under any color or pretext whatsoever, prohibited,
liberty, if not already annihilated, is on the brink of destruction." HENRY ST.
GEORGE TUCKER (Blackstone's 1768 "Commentaries on the Laws of England")

"Both oligarch and tyrant mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of
their arms." ARISTOTLE ("Politics")

"The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subjected
people to carry arms; history shows that all conquerors who have allowed their
subjected peoples to carry arms have prepared their own fall." ADOLPH HITLER
(Edict of March 18, 1938)

"For it's 'guns this' and 'guns that', and 'chuck 'em out, the brutes', But
they're the 'Savior of our loved ones' when the thugs begin to loot. RUYARD
KIPLING ("Tommy Atkins")

"The NRA compromises only when at all possible." JOHNY ROWLAND (host of "The
Shooting Show")

BIG - LP Meeting, Thursday February 26, 2004, 7:00 PM Sandy, UT

The Libertarian Party of Utah will hold their February meeting this Thursday and will feature some of their most active candidates. Candidates, including Richard Mack, will give brief speeches. The meeting will also discuss their upcoming State Nominating Convention, their annual Bray Dinner, the St. Patrick's Day Parade, and volunteer programs. This meeting will give volunteers and candidates a chance to meet and match up talents will needs.
The meeting is open to the public - Where: Jim's Family Restaurant, 10640 S 160 W, Sandy(100 yards east of I-15). Bring a guest. Food is available and is very good. If you would like to eat, please arrive a few minutes early if possible. Business will begin at 7:00 PM.

Utah's Next Governor? You decide.




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Libertarian gubernatorial candidate Richard Mack talks to students Thursday about gun rights and the ban against gay marriages. (Katrina Joslin/University Journal)



Richard Mack addresses students


By DANA BARTHOLOMEW, dbartholomew@suujournal.com

February 22, 2004

Libertarian gubernatorial candidate Richard Mack addressed students Thursday as part of SUU's "Meet the Gubernatorial Candidate Series" and spoke against gun control laws and the gay marriage ban.

"(Our ancestors) bought our freedom and our chance to be free with their (guns)," he said. "Do you think America would be here today if we had not used guns? The American government is rewriting history and reprogramming you.

"Unless I commit a crime with it, you have to leave me alone, and I can own as many guns as I want," he added. "Look at all the people being arrested for gun control laws we have in our country: they've never committed a crime, they've never intended to commit a crime, and yet we are sending people to jail anyway, with no criminal record, for merely possessing a gun."

Mack quoted Thomas Jefferson's views about the second amendment: "Laws that forbid the carrying of guns disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailant."

Mack said he believes the problem with law enforcement in Utah and nationwide is there are too many laws that enable police officers to create criminals.

"They're not discovering criminals; they're creating them," he said.

He also addressed the gay marriage ban and said he thinks no one should have to ask the government for the right to get married.

"What is the purpose behind the law?" he asked.

Mack said there is nothing the democrats or republicans have made better.

"(The government has) made the debt bigger, not better," he said. "They've made the bureaucracy bigger; they've made taxation bigger . . . the welfare problem, the poverty problems -- you can just go on and on about the things they have promised. They've proven the old Ronald Reagan quote: 'Government isn't the answer to the problem. Government is the problem.'

"I finally agree with both the democrats and republicans," Mack added. "They both say don't vote for the other one. I agree. We shouldn't. They're both right."

He said his candidacy is based on getting the government out of the citizens' lives.

"If you want the perpetuation of the welfare state, if you want the continuation of exorbitant taxation, if you want the continuation of bureaucrats and law enforcement officers forcing you to breathe, have a job, where to walk, how to talk, how to think, what to think -- then vote for the democrats or republicans who will be facing up against me in December," Mack said. "But if you want to control your own life and you want to control your own family and to control your own education, then I'm the only alternative."





Monday, February 23, 2004

I Will Not INITIATE Force or Fraud...

...The key word here being "initiate".

For a very long time, I have felt that the attacks on our liberty and the deceptive nature of our government have been reaching a point where "we the people" are being backed into a corner. I feel that there is violence brewing in the American people the likes of which the world has not seen since the Norsemen Invaded Ireland. I believe that the government sees it as well, and the result is their acceleration of gun restrictions, witch will ultimately result in disarmament laws. This week Diane Feinstein will try to include a renewal of the Assault Weapon Ban in the context of another, unrelated bill - S.659. The AWB is due to sunset if not renewed. However, rather than bring the AWB to the floor on it's own, another scumbag politician will use deception to erode our 2nd amendment. Politicians, like Feinstein, make my skin crawl. They are honestly the scourge of the earth.
In court, we prohibit prosecutors from weaving unrelated information into a case. Why in the name of God can't we prohibit legislators and lawmakers from mixing unrelated issues in bills? In the John Ross novel, Unintended Consequences, members of the gun culture are pushed beyond the limit and the "unintended consequence" is the assassination of several prominent politicians and judges. The novel is frighteningly believable. Every new law that is passed drives a wedge between the government and the people. I don't believe that we have had a representative government for a long time. I believe that most politicians are looking after their own interests and the interests of those who 'control' their political future. Once they have been initiated into "the club" they begin to believe that they are better than their constituents and that the "political machine" will look after them. Their total disregard of the constitution is a smart slap in the face to every American. The behavior of those like Feinstein, Kennedy, Hatch, and the Schumer in the world is an insult to anyone who has read the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the United States. These people shouldn't simply be voted out of office, they should be tried for treason and hung in public. Of course, the list of abuses and abusers is endless, but Vin Suprynowicz certainly provides a good starting list in his two outstanding books, "The Ballad of Carl Drega" and "Send in the Waco Killers".
There are days when I become very disturbed by the every growing loss of freedom in this country; And then there are days when I resolve to stop worrying or caring about the day-to-day troubles. The fact is that the political machine in this country is completely out of control and nothing short of a revolution will change it. My hope is that I can find my free zone and disappear in that freedom - oblivious to the impending destruction of this once great nation. If I can find the courage to pull myself away from the "freedom fight" and live my life the way I choose to on a couple dozen acres with all my "neighbors" for 100 miles in either direction holding my same desire for freedom - I will die a happy man. I only hope that through some miracle that "the people" will continue to hold off the coming disaster during my life and the lives of my children's children.
Ten years ago, I could have written these thoughs without fear of reprisal from government. Today, however, the police state in America is so rabid that I fear that something as simple and innocent as my rambling thoughts could be used and twisted by my own government to snatch me off the street for good. The fact is, that that is exactly what our government wants. They want us to be too frightened of them to resist; too frightened to speak out against them; too frightened to even exercise our God given rights. Yes, God given - because our rights existed before government did. No, I will not initiate force or fraud, but I will cheer for all brave patriots who stand up to an oppressive government BEFORE their backs are against the wall. The names of men like Rick Stanley and Jeff Jordan (aka The Hunter) should be on the tongues of all who love freedom; we all owe these modern day heroes a debt of gratitude. Until we stop criticizing these men and start emulating them, we will not be free. Until all potential jurors understand that THEY have the power to find Jordan and Stanley innocent, we will not be free.
Tax "evaders" is a term that the IRS made up to turn neighbor against neighbor. Most tax evaders are simply people that the law has abandoned. A careful look into the tax laws will show any reasonable person that most of us have no obligation to pay taxes. But year after year, we are intimidated, threatened and subjected to force AND fraud by government agents who steal the fruit of our labor to keep the machinery of a corrupt government growing and growing. Think about what initiation of force or fraud really means to you. I believe that in our lifetime, we may face a situation where even a moment's hesitation could cost us our life or the life of a loved one. Resolve the issue in your mind. I am capable of responding violently to those who initiate force or fraud against me. In my fight to KEEP my rights, I am prepared to excercise my rights.

Quotes of the Day

1 - Rome did not create a great empire by having meetings, they did
it by killing all those who opposed them.

2 - If you can stay calm, while all around you is chaos... then you
probably haven't completely understood the seriousness of the situation.

3 - Artificial Intelligence is no match for Natural Stupidity

4 - Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.

Waitress Weilds Chainsaw, builds dream log cabin

Thanks to Ian for bringing this to my attention. A single-mom waitress moved to Oregon and built her own dream home from scratch...TWICE. It seems that after the first home burned to the ground, her supporters chipped in for the raw materials to rebuild.
One of the greatest stories I have read about people going after their dreams and achieving them against all odds. She is a hero for all time. Cut and paste these links to read her story:

http://www.backwoodshome.com/articles/ainsworth27.html
http://www.backwoodshome.com/articles/ainsworth38.html
http://www.backwoodshome.com/articles2/ainsworth32.html
http://www.backwoodshome.com/articles2/ainsworth50.html
http://www.backwoodshome.com/articles2/ainsworth77a.html
http://www.backwoodshome.com/articles2/ainsworth69.html

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The self-protection sham - Reply to Trib Letter 2/22/04

Here is my reply to a letter in today's Salt Lake Trib. I seriously doubt my letter will be published. The original letter follows my reply:

Reply to: The self-protection sham

After reading Raymond Hollstein's absurd rant (The self-protection sham 2/22/04) I find myself compelled to address a few of his false statements.
First of all, self-defense uses of a firearm are generally not reported to the media OR to police departments unless someone is injured. Secondly, this past year alone, an airline employee with a concealed carry permit shot an armed terrorist in the Salt Lake City airport. In another incident, a Utah citizen stopped a bank robbery in Salt Lake City. Both of these items were reported by our local media.
John Lott's book, "More Guns, Less Crime" provides substantial documented evidence and empirical data showing that where concealed carry is implemented, violent crime drops. There are a number of cities that have banned personal carry of firearms for protection. Among them, Chicago, New York City, and Washington, DC. I challenge Mr. Hollstein to compare the violent crime rates in this cities with Salt Lake City or any other city that acknowledges a citizens right to carry concealed weapons. What I find most disturbing is Mr. Hollstein's desire to deprive law abiding citizens of their right to self-defense.
The Second Amendment protects an individual right that existed before the creation of any government. The Declaration of Independence made clear that all human beings are endowed with certain unalienable rights, and that governments are created to protect those rights.
The language of the Second Amendment prohibits the federal government from “infringing” on this right of the people. There is nothing ambiguous about “shall not be infringed.” (See Webster’s New Universal Unabridged Dictionary, 2d ed.1983, p. 941.) The language of the Second Amendment is about as clear as the First Amendment’s prohibiting Congress from infringing the right to freedom of speech, press, and religious expression. There is no logical reason to read the Second Amendment as a weak statement, while treating the First Amendment as a strong protector of rights.
Hollstein erroneously claims, "The federal courts have been steadfast in their interpretation of the right to bear arms -- the 'collective right' of a militia over the 'individual right' espoused by the gun lobby." This is pure fantasy. Even under the U.S. v. Miller case, the Second Amendment protects the individual right to keep and bear military firearms. The federal courts deceptively and misleadingly employed the Miller decision to deny the individual right to keep and bear arms in Barnett: Lower Court Interpretations of United States v. Miller and the Second Amendment, 26 Cumberland Law Review 961-1004 (1996). In addition, a federal judge recently struck down a federal “gun control” statute as unconstitutional in United States v. Emerson, 46 F. Supp. 2d 598 (N.D. Tex. 1999). District Judge Cummings extensively reviewed the law and historical foundations of the Second Amendment to conclude that the right to keep and bear arms protected by the Second Amendment is an individual right. The Emerson decision remains pending an appeal in the Fifth Circuit as of this date.

People like Raymond Hollstein, who spread lies and deceit to further the political agenda of the gun grabbers are far more of a threat to Utah than CCW holders. Perhaps someday people who desire a "gun free" environment will have the moxie - you know, the wit and intelligence - to move to Washington, DC, New York City, or Chicago and leave the west for those who wish to engage in personal responsibility. I ain't gonna hold my breath. Until then, Mr. Hollstein and others should familiarize themselves with the facts at http://jpfo.org/ and http://keepandbeararms.com/

Fran Tully
Sandy, Utah
State Chair
Libertarian Party of Utah
801-949-3570


The self-protection sham

No legitimate or credible reason exists for a civilian to go about armed in Utah. The tired and lame reasoning that carrying legally concealed weapons is a deterrent to crime, or that it is needed for self-defense, just doesn't hold up.
Since the right-to-carry bill was passed in Utah, not a single incident of a concealed weapon holder in Utah using a weapon to protect himself or herself has been reported in the media. So much for the sham of "self-protection."
Concealed weapon permit holders would like us to believe carrying a weapon is responsible for a decrease in crime. Not so. Crime rates have been dropping in all states over the past several years, including states which do not have a concealed-weapons law.
And finally, the Second Amendment does not give a person unfettered "rights" to carry a weapon. Laws have restrictions and boundaries. The federal courts have been steadfast in their interpretation of the right to bear arms -- the "collective right" of a militia over the "individual right" espoused by the gun lobby. Our own Utah Supreme Court upheld the collective interpretation in 1982 (State v. Vlacil).
It's unfortunate the gun lobby's hardheaded and obdurate position over the concealed weapon issue prevents any real dialogue toward resolving it. Perhaps someday the voters in Utah will send to Capitol Hill legislators who have the moxie -- you know, people with wit and intelligence -- who can bring an equitable solution to this vexing issue.
I ain't gonna hold my breath.

Raymond Hollstein
Salt Lake City